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2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Trap
« Thread Started on Oct 21, 2009, 2:02pm »

Any thoughts on what kind of team would best employ a 2-1-2 trap like Divilbiss's Buzz trap? Basically, they trap the wings and the corners. They don't let the ball in the high post no matter what (extending the middle guy as high as need be) and it causes a lot of panic by opponents. The 2 guards' job is to get in the passing lanes of the wings so that the passes are lobs or bounce passes, giving them more time to get there to trap. Anyone have success with this or have a feel for what kind of team would employ it best? I have a team with a lot of big long guys, some of them quick, some of them not, and am thinking this might fit us.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #1 on Oct 22, 2009, 7:59am »

anyone got notes on this? I have the DVD but haven't got around to looking at it, but was thinking about this very thing this morning. 2-1-2 half court trap

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #2 on Oct 22, 2009, 8:21am »

Coach: I would check out what Dan Ninham does with his 23 Scramble, it's pretty good.

What I do is called "Trap and Triangle" and I do it with every zone trap 1-2-2, 1-3-1, 2-3, 2-1-2, etc.
The premise is that as a player you are one of two places: trapping the all or in the "triangle" protecting the basket. The triangle consists of the high post, low post, and backside block/midlane area. So all you have to do is work out the slides so these places are filled in each trap. The steals come when they try to force it inside and then you teach your top of the triangle (high post guy) to start cheating after the first or second trap, read the eyes and try to pick off the pass.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #3 on Oct 22, 2009, 8:55am »

Thanks coach

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« Reply #4 on Oct 22, 2009, 5:28pm »

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #5 on Nov 5, 2009, 3:26pm »

I love what John had to offer. The "Trap and Triangle" is an awesome concept. How do you go about teaching this to a group of high school kids so they understand it at a level that they don't have to think about their roles in the triangle. Great concept! I think I am will share it at a coach's meeting tomorrow if you don't mind.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #6 on Nov 5, 2009, 3:29pm »

Kingfish,

To answer you question regarding the personel of a 2-3 trapping system, I think in order to be highly successful at this you'd wnat to have a team with some perimeter quickness and tough mentality. Remember you can hide a weak link in a 2-3 zone pretty easy so if this happens to be the case employ your trap on the side away from the weak defensive player. This allows you to play into the strengths of your team while still trapping the side of the floor you opponent is most likely to go to--all teams have a side of the floor they like. Also consider trapping everything that is dribbled from the wing to the baseline no matter what defensive alignment you may be in.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #7 on Nov 5, 2009, 5:49pm »

I really like the "trap and triangle" idea...it's definately something we'll use...thanks coach!

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #8 on Nov 6, 2009, 6:26am »

The trap and triangle is a new concept worth exploring. I was taught that the guys not in the trap form an umbrella below or around the trap zone.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #9 on Nov 6, 2009, 8:15am »

Hi,

Do you stay in the trap the whole time or is there a point you fall back into another defense? And which defense would that be?

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #10 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:11am »

Nov 5, 2009, 3:29pm, coachingpower wrote:

Kingfish,

To answer you question regarding the personel of a 2-3 trapping system, I think in order to be highly successful at this you'd wnat to have a team with some perimeter quickness and tough mentality. Remember you can hide a weak link in a 2-3 zone pretty easy so if this happens to be the case employ your trap on the side away from the weak defensive player. This allows you to play into the strengths of your team while still trapping the side of the floor you opponent is most likely to go to--all teams have a side of the floor they like. Also consider trapping everything that is dribbled from the wing to the baseline no matter what defensive alignment you may be in.

Is your website down? I have been trying to get on to it for a couple days now and every time I click the link in your signature.... the web page freezes on me and never opens up.

any other ideas?

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #11 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:28am »

Nov 5, 2009, 3:29pm, coachingpower wrote:

Kingfish,

To answer you question regarding the personel of a 2-3 trapping system, I think in order to be highly successful at this you'd wnat to have a team with some perimeter quickness and tough mentality. Remember you can hide a weak link in a 2-3 zone pretty easy so if this happens to be the case employ your trap on the side away from the weak defensive player. This allows you to play into the strengths of your team while still trapping the side of the floor you opponent is most likely to go to--all teams have a side of the floor they like. Also consider trapping everything that is dribbled from the wing to the baseline no matter what defensive alignment you may be in.

Has anyone tried to make thee middle man the goaltender and rotate the back side wing over to be an interceptor? Just asking because we try to hide our big as the teaser in Whalberg's press and that puts him in the middle on our 23 scramble.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #12 on Nov 6, 2009, 11:16pm »

Has anyone tried to make thee middle man the goaltender and rotate the back side wing over to be an interceptor? Just asking because we try to hide our big as the teaser in Whalberg's press and that puts him in the middle on our 23 scramble.

Rotating the backside guy up was part of Ninham's scramble early, but I think he has gotten away from it. He would have the opposite guard deny the high man and the backside F would come to the high post, leaving the man farthest away from the ball open. I have toyed with doing this year in the HC as will be playing Walberg's FC D, and Scrambling in the HC.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #13 on Nov 7, 2009, 4:32pm »

Thanks coachwillie, I think we may do this, let me know how it works for you guys.

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Re: 2-3 Half Court Trap (Buzz)/2-1-2 Half Court Tr
« Reply #14 on Nov 7, 2009, 8:35pm »

We start practice the 16th, so will do.

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