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dwilly93
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« Reply #15 on Oct 4, 2009, 6:41pm » | |
If you play the defense like this, how do you cover the pass from the corner back up to the guard in a 2 guard offense? If it is covered by the point defender, how do you cover the pass to the opposite guard? Also, do you put your best athletes at the wing spots in this type of defense?
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« Reply #16 on Oct 5, 2009, 6:26pm » | |
I like what Carrier says as well, but keep in mind that your top player is going to be gassed in a few minutes, so you probably don't want him to be your top scorer as well. Top position always gets a TON of rebounds for us...something to think about
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« Reply #17 on Oct 6, 2009, 6:15am » | |
I'll try to describe what it looked like they tried to do. Ball in the corner, the wing would take the ball (on the baseline) and the point would take the guard. It looked like they were trying to match up and deny the pass back off the baseline. If the ball is moving quickly though they never caught up.
Another way to describe the point and wing movements would be to compare them to a 3-2 zone where the bottom players stay put and the wing covers the corners.
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« Reply #18 on Oct 6, 2009, 6:40am » | |
We do things a little differently when we align 1-3-1.
Top we put a long athlete (4) whose only job is to divert the ball from side to side and drop to cover the high post.
Bottom is our big. The stay basket protection all the time.
Middle 3 work together to cover ballside wing, ball side corner, weak side rim.
So on corner coverage, we will already have a player on the ball side wing. THe bottom at the rim and our top at the high post so the middle of the "3" will be in a drive gap and either jump to the baseline pass or replace the wing who gets to the baseline pass whoever is closest.
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« Reply #19 on Oct 18, 2009, 8:37pm » | |
Completely agree with John Carrier. Very player specific. I coach girls and a couple years ago we were able to put our very athletic 5 at the top and make ball reversal almost impossible. Last year we had our 4. This year it will be our 2 or 3. We extend it and trap alot so our bottom is always fast, usually a 1 or 2. When our pg has been small we have had to put her on the wing.
I know the 3 time state champions here is WI puts their 6'6 center at the top. Imagine trying to reverse the ball for a 5'5 girl. Very tough.
I have seen rotations that leave the bottom person in and have the middle person chase to the corners. Players are obv. adjusted accordingly. Not a big fan of that though.
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« Reply #20 on Nov 6, 2009, 3:45pm » | |
In our extended 1-3-1 we like to put the best athlete up on top. It does not matter if they are a guard or a big, we want our best athlete there. We will put our slowest player in the middle since there is less area to cover, and put our most athletic big on the bottom and our two wings are usually guards or small fowards.
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« Reply #21 on Nov 9, 2009, 10:03am » | |
I am looking at running the 1-3-1 as my base defense this year since we have little depth but a lot of size, youth (a good way of saying inexperience), and athleticism.
Have any of you had luck extending your 1-3-1 to 3/4 court or full court?
This goes along with the question, do you change your personnel placement when you extend the zone? Do you keep your slow middle man in the middle of the press, or do you drop him back and switch him back to the middle when the ball is moved into the front court?
I suppose, if your slow guy was tall, you could put him at the top of the press and put your athlete in the middle and have them flip flop when in the front court.
Just looking for ideas to mix up our pressure and mix up the looks for the offense.
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« Reply #22 on Nov 9, 2009, 7:02pm » | |
The last 4 years I always install the 1-3-1 as a change of pace, trapping 3/4 court defense but every year it becomes our base defense. Granted I am at the middle school level and I can get away with the open 3's it gives up but the tempo it forces teams to play at always is to my likeing.
I usually put my best defensive guard at the top of the zone, it usually works out that they are good ball handlers as well so that helps a lot on breaks that we get off of the defense. The middle man is usually my biggest player, it helps if they can front any high post player the opponents might use but I'm more concerned with rebounding and post defense. The baseline man is my best athlete usually (although I have put my best athlete at the front of the zone at times) it helps to have an aggressive player here who wants to work hard on defense because I send my guy baseline to baseline. The wings aren't as important to me, sort of the leftovers. If you have a slower guy then putting him weakside helps.
I will always trap when the ball is in the baseline corners, the baseline man and the strongside wing. The high post man rotates down, the front man rotates to the high post area and looks to make educated risks with steals and the weakside wing rotates to the lower block. We will also trap the opponents wings with our front man if we pick anything up, this isn't easy and can get beat more easily so we don't do it all the time.
Again I'm at a lower level so if your applying this to high school take it with a grain of salt, although when I was an assistant for a high school team this defense did work great for a few minutes at a time.
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« Reply #23 on Nov 12, 2009, 5:56pm » | |
1-3-1 extends to 1/2 or 3/4 court pretty easily. In my experience you'll want to keep your personal placement the same as your base 1-3-1. Be advised that you will need to sub extensively or only play the extended version in short bursts- there are a lot of long slides in this.
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« Reply #24 on Nov 16, 2009, 11:48am » | |
Thanks for the help Coach. I would be using this as a base so guys did not get worn down as easily, so situational extension of the defense looks to be the way to go
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